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I agree more cushioned is better for me, now yes on the trails I try to not get to technical, but I sure feel better and it helps my tibialus anterior pain

Okay now can someone translate? 😂😂

You are a G Nathan! We enjoy your energy, solo or not! 🙏

i start to think thak all those shoes with sooo much cushioning (40mm now!) are making people only weaker. yes, they allow to run more, but with less and less form.... maybe that's why they say minimalist shoes are the healthiest at the end.....

Love the midsole and underfoot feel for long runs. I just hope that they are not knit upper, it may work for some runners but most people don’t like knit upper that can’t dial in the proper fit they want.

This confirm my concern with the soft EVA based: the bounce won't last...

Zero drop shoes f🤬cked up my foot. NEVER had foot pain til I wore zero drops ONE DAY over 8 weeks ago. I've been out of work ever since. Standing/walking on hard surfaces really bothers it. Finally have an orthopedic appointment on Monday.

Brilliant - thank you!

Didn't get any meaningful info about the shoe (like how is it RUNNING in the shoe ??????????????)

It's like picking your first car.. If you could choose.. World you lick 6a portable 911? (Best handling.. Stable in corners, fast...) Or do you pick a clumsy SUV night designed for agility?? Kids should start with durability shoes...Y adults should wear more stability shows.. Not for handicapped or O'Toole who assistant private

Good points made. Stability shows shooting be marketed differently.. You don't need to be pronating already to buy a pair.... The support helps reduce the chance of later becoming a pronator

This is really interesting Matt. Question for you, which you may not be able to answer without caveat: I have been diagnosed with cartilage damage on the lateral underside of my sesamoid. Treatment allowing, will be running only with heavily cushioned, rockered shoes (and possible orthotic insoles). Would I be better off with a compliant or a resilient midsole foam?

The content topics seem very useful, but the conversation is too lengthy. Would be amazing if you could summarize the key takeaways for each section / chapter.

As a 250 lb runner this shoe did not work for me at all. Too compliant with almost no resilience at my weight. Also, the booty upper left my feet and ankles doing a lot of work to stay on the platform. I wanted to love this shoe but ultimately had to return it. Probably not a problem for lighter runners but for me it was a big miss.

Which one ia best for Sunday long run at marathon pace?

Love this shoe, but definitely a LSR shoe for me, anything quicker than that and I’m reaching for my Superblast, Cielo X1 or PXS 2. But definitely the shoe I’m turning to the most atm as I prepare for Chicago.

Fantastic Shoe! For me, one of the best shoes to come to market in the past five years! It's quickly becoming one of my all-time favorites. It's just fun to run in. Protective and bouncy at the same time. Initially, I was concerned about the booty-style upper. I've had no issues at all with the upper. The fits is spot-on and is TTS. Will definitely buy another pair. I'm excited to see what's coming next in Mizuno's line up later this year and in 2025. Thank you for a terrific review.

As an EVA based shoe will it freeze in cold? And how do you compare it to SC trainer?

I am skeptical to try because everyone said it is very soft.

Hey Matt, Your thoughts on Neo Vista vs. Superblast 2 for marathon racing at 8:30-8:50 min/mi paces?

I love the Neo Vista. It changes my foot strike bc i usually run on my forefoot but to get the most out of it I midfoot strike and I feel more efficient even though my coros tech tells me I'm actually not more efficient. Im running at a faster pace but my ground contact time is longer. My cadence is the same though. It feels like im coasting vs when i run in my Endorphin Pro's that feels more choppy.

I used to come back from running with ankle pain, knee pain and hip pain. 5km is max for me on a good day. But I stopped enjoying it. Started again after seeing the SL2 comments and really having fun running in this shoe! (I'd get a1/2 size up next time ).

So, it loses pop after 100 miles 🤔

thanks for the review Matt. I bought it but have only 20k for now using just for daily runs I feel like its too soft for me for faster runs, I definetely gonna try it for longer runs with marathon page.

For me the Neo Vista midsole is perfect, i hope for V2 the same stack, same midsole (maybe a bit more durability) , with a new platform and upper like triumph 21

Imagine if all you use is a hammock when you lie down, whether you sleep, watch TV or eat. Imagine what that could do to your back if you do this for a long period. That’s how your feet would feel if all you use are highly cushioned high compliance shoes.

I’ve watched this a few times and it seems like contradictory info is being given at times, so I’d like to just ask a question to simplify and check for understanding: so softer cushioning will cause the leg to need to stabilize and shock absorb itself more? And firmer cushioning will cause the leg to have to stabilize and shock absorb itself less?

Are these ok for a mild pronator?

Sl2 ran short for me. My first pair of Boston 12 is getting on and found another pair for a good deal so I guess it's a big vote of confidence going for them again. I personally don't think there is a better daily trainer. Probably going to buy Sl2 again but can't quite decide whether to go up 1/2 or full size. Toe was touching end for US 11, which is same size I have in Boston 12 and ts8 and Prime X Strung 🤔

116 what did you say sorry, anyone who wants a really , anyone who wants a really r*** ride lol? Whats r****

I have a 5k race next week. Is it better to wear the pro 3 with 260 miles in, or the pro 1 with basically 0 miles in? Im guesing the 1 since the carbon wears down quickly right,? Thanks

I certainly want a low drop shoe. And specially ones with an anatomical heel toe box.

Was wondering if you guys are going to review the 860v14 soon? I wanted to know how it stacks up compared to the shoes mentioned in this video.

Is there a simple strength training plan you recommend for runners that include principles like slow heavy resistance training and other important practices?

Can you update with the SB2?

Wow. Just wow. So much articulation to so many questions and experiences I’ve had. This is awesome. QQ: I have noticed a lot more calf tightness since I started running in the Superblast. I really like the shoe but the calf tightness makes me nervous. Is this an example of a shoe that although it has lots of foam underfoot, it is also a bit firmer and may be causing my calf muscles and joints to stretch more like you described around 11:00 mark? I feel like this didn’t happen to me as much when I used to rotate the Ride 13 and Endorphin Speed. After just two miles my calf feels like it’s on the verge of cramping versus the 6+ mile runs I used to do without issue in the Saucony rotation.

Love your podcast ❤ You insight is helpful to learn about my own issues with my feet I have flat feet and recently was prescribed custom inserts.. I have issues with my left hip( piriformis, pain) side lower leg tightness to pain and left ankle pain I have seen orthopedic doctor, they did an MRI found out I have 3 herniated discs.. blah blah Anyways, o definitely like to Lauren to your episodes while running or walking.. I’m struggling on why show to get for long runs, I started this week my 16 weeks of marathon training, and I need a good shoe that can help me run my long runs without feeling to fatigue on my hip and ankle.. so far I’m doing by running slow and in control, If I need to walk to readjust my form I’ll do it.. I’m training for my second Marathon ever.. Please keep put out your insightful content 🤘👏👏

I recently got Altra Vanish Carbon and the foam reminds me of Lightstrike Pro. How would you describe the resiliency and characteristics of these foams. I really like them. They are not exactly “sink and bounce” and I struggle to describe them.

Ride16 is my top choice, second tier are Novab3 blk/orange(other color not as good), Puma Magnify Nitro 2(winter only), and 3rd tier is glycerin 20 GTS(not a fan of 10mm drop).

Hi @DoctorsofRunning , I am using Endorphin Speed 4 for fast , long and easy runs . I have read somewhere that using a plated shoe for everyday running can kill your ankles. Should I start using non plated daily trainer shoe like Novablast 4 ?

What I dislike the most about this video is that the SL2 color way you’re holding was not available in my size! It’s a great shoe though, even in the blah color way I had to get. At least I got 30% off though.